Albert Einstein is credited with saying that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result. For years now, Republicans and Democrats have been leading the country in the same basic direction: toward bigger and bigger government; more and more socialism, globalism, corporatism, and foreign interventionism; and the dismantling of constitutional liberties. Yet, voters continue to think that they are voting for "change" when they vote for a Republican or Democrat. This is truly insane!

Take a look at the recent $700 billion Wall Street bailout: both John McCain and Barack Obama endorsed and lobbied for it. Both McCain and Obama will continue to bail out these international banksters on the backs of the American taxpayers. Both McCain and Obama support giving illegal aliens amnesty and a path to citizenship. In the debate this past Tuesday night, both McCain and Obama expressed support for sending U.S. forces around the world for "peacekeeping" purposes. They also expressed support for sending combat forces against foreign countries even if those countries do not pose a threat to the United States. Neither Obama nor McCain will do anything to stem the tide of a burgeoning police state or a mushrooming New World Order. Both Obama and McCain support NAFTA and similar "free trade" deals. Neither candidate will do anything to rid America of the Federal Reserve, or work to eliminate the personal income tax, or disband the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). Both Obama and McCain support the United Nations. So, pray tell, how is a vote for either McCain or Obama not a wasted vote?

But, back to the "he cannot win" argument: to vote for John McCain is to vote for a man who cannot win. Yes, I am saying it here and now: John McCain cannot win this election. The handwriting is on the wall. The Fat Lady is singing. It is all over. Finished. John McCain cannot win.

With only three weeks before the election, Barack Obama is pulling away. McCain has already pulled his campaign out of Michigan. In other key battleground states, McCain is slipping fast. He was ahead in Missouri; now it is a toss-up or leaning to Obama. A couple of weeks ago, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida were all leaning towards McCain, or at least toss-up states. Now, they are all leaning to Obama. Even the longtime GOP bellwether state of Indiana is moving toward Obama. In addition, new voter registrations are at an all-time high, and few of them are registering as Republicans. In fact, the Republican Party now claims only around 25% of the electorate, and Independents are increasingly leaning toward Obama.

Ladies and gentlemen, Barack Obama is headed for an electoral landslide victory over John McCain. John McCain can no more beat Barack Obama than Bob Dole could beat Bill Clinton.

I ask, therefore, Are not conservatives and Christians who vote for John McCain guilty of the same thing that they accuse people who vote for third party candidates of doing? Are they not voting for someone who cannot win? Indeed, they are. In fact, conservatives and Christians who vote for John McCain are not only voting for a man who cannot win, they are voting for a man who does not share their own beliefs and principles. If this is not insanity, nothing is!

So, why not (for once in your life, perhaps) cast a vote purely for principle! Vote for someone who is truly pro-life. Someone who would quickly secure our nation's borders, and end the invasion of our country by illegal aliens. Someone who would, on his first day in office, release Border Patrol agents Ramos and Compean and fire U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton. Someone who would immediately, upon assuming office, begin leading the charge to dismantle the Federal Reserve, overturn the 16th Amendment, expunge the IRS, and return America to sound money principles. Someone who would get the US out of the UN. Someone who would stop spending billions and trillions of dollars for foreign aid. Someone who would prosecute the Wall Street bankers who defrauded the American people out of billions of dollars. Someone who would work to repeal NAFTA, CAFTA, GATT, the WTO, and stop the NAFTA superhighway. Someone who would say a resounding "No" to the New World Order. Someone who would stop using our brave men and women in uniform as global cops for the United Nations. Someone who would stop America's global adventurism and interventionism. Someone who would steadfastly support and defend the right of the people to keep and bear arms.

"Who is this person?" you ask. Go here to find out:

BALDWIN '08

As John Quincy Adams said, "Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost."

Original article by Chuck Baldwin, October 10, 2008]]> 2008-10-11T16:10:44-07:00 en-us Copyright © 2008 craigslist, inc. http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/875612139.html text 2008-10-11T16:10:44-07:00 http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/873565123.html Where on there is the info on what someone other than the over publicized already Barak Obama and John McCain?

Past that, READ the pages and no matter which candidate you chose based on their information, you are getting nearly cookie cutter clones.

Some say that if you do not vote democrat or republican, that you are wasting your vote. Some say that the 3rd party candidates are stealing votes from the democrats or republicans.

I say, with 200 years of MOSTLY democrat or republican control of the country, look what we have. A worthless dollar, a failing economy, a real employment problem (lets look past the "official figures of new claims filed and lets see how many people are REALLY unemployed in this country - people who are no longer eligible for unemployment benefits, and still cannot find a decent job with a livable wage. I bet the figure is closer to 60%)

I say it is time for accountability in our government. we are supposed to have a government BY the people and FOR the people... where did that go? It's time to stop wasting your vote, time for you to finally speak up and take this country back from the greedy profiteers that run this country. If you vote for EITHER a democrat or a republican, then you are just as guilty as they are and have been for decades, of destroying the foundations this country was built on.

Taxation without representation... one of the reasons George Washington, Benjamin Franklin and a host of others led the people of THIS United States away from British rule... and where are we today...
The average US citizen pays a HUGE number of taxes... income tax, sales tax, inheritance tax, tax on interest bearing savings, tax on wayyyy too many things, and what do we get for our tax dollars spent? Not very much. We get the rich companies receiving all the benefits, while the common people work hard every day to make ends meet and you don't see anyone bailing the common person out do you? No, it isn't even considered, that's seditionist thinking and talk to say that the government should stop looting the pockets of the people to fund their foreign interests, to fund their ill thought investments, to fund their greed...

This message will probably get flagged or discarded or people will attempt to still one person's voice of reason and sanity in this insane, unreasonable country. But beware, i am not alone... and there are FAR more of us who are FED UP with the way things are today than there were back in the days when this country was formed...You can control the media (this board included), you can control so many things, but you will NEVER still the beat of a FREE MAN (or WOMAN) from seeking justice and what is right. This may not be the day but be advised, the day will come, and soon, when those of us who have been trying to open your eyes are either in prison labeled as "terrorists", shot dead because we refused to disburse , whatever, and one day you will wake up and find one of two things, those few of us who started this eye opening finally making headway, OR, more than likely, those of us who tried to open your eyes before it was too late all gone and your rights and privileges gone as well.

Freedom is never free, one must constantly and diligently fight to keep the very freedoms you and I have. When you stop fighting for that freedom, you lost the battle and the freedom as well.]]> 2008-10-10T00:15:58-07:00 en-us Copyright © 2008 craigslist, inc. http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/873565123.html text 2008-10-10T00:15:58-07:00 http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/871998609.html
point 1: you state:"1. An incompetent president, Bill Clinton, put up barriers to impede the FBI and CIA from doing their jobs."; one of the reasons that 9/11 happened... It might be pointed out that Bill Clinton was NOT involved in any of this, our current president, George W Bush was however. and talk about incompetent?

You’re a partisan I see.

Bill Clinton designed the barriers between the FBI, CIA and everyone else. It was his doing so yes he is partly to blame. Now if you went the route that Bush 47 or Regan or who was that real looser of a president… oh yes Carter and on back beyond you would be right, this situation is a long time in the making.

Where was he? he was reading a book to some school kids when it happened. What did he do when told that the US was under attack? what did he do when he was told that a plane had hit one of the twin towers? Well, what any competent person would do... he apologized to the school kids and teacher and immediately left to be advised by his top advisors of the situation and to come to a consensus as to what to do.... wait... no he didn't... he sat there a few seconds like he was told that dinner would be ready in a few minutes, then went on reading to those school kids.

Wow, this is fair? Let me follow you around and see how many time I could say “what an imbecile, I would never do that”. Probably lots, every hour at least. Now lets be honest, I don’t know what you are thinking, you definitely don’t know what I am thinking but there is a game that is pretty common with people and that is transferring what one thinks about a situation onto another person. This is usually biased, partisan and twisted into a totally different direction than the words or context of the original statement would lead. How many times have you heard people explain what someone else “meant” about something they said? Like “I am going to help everyone live their lives” then hear someone else explain, “Oh, he meant he is going to give back their taxes”. That’s not what I heard and if I want to know what is meant exactly I’ll listen to more and so make up my own mind. In this example I have made up my mind that he Meant he is going create an even bigger government to get into my personal business and if I’m not following his doctrine I’ll be punished. So on this I give G. W. a pass. I’m not arrogant enough to think I am God, yet.

point 2: you state "2. The CIA is itself a corrupt and incompetent agency designed to cause Big Trouble for all humans living on this planet.". While i agree that the CIA may not be the most organized government agency, i wouldn't go so far as to call them incompetent. Most of those in positions of importance and decesion making in that agency, as well as the NSA and the FBI sift through more data in one hour than most of us have to in 1 year. it is their job to sift through that data, discard unimportant crap like what affairs are going on between your neighbors, and flag for further review anything that could be deemed suspicious or a threat to the country. Now, this may sound all simple but you have to realize that NO government agency can initiate action on one or just a few possible threats. to initiate any actions there must be an overwhelming amount of evidence that the threat is a real and present danger to the security and safety of the citizens of this great country. This is a job you could not pay joe average ANY amount of money to do on a daily basis for years with any degree of success, yet, the CIA and other governmental agencies like them do just that, and what thanks do they get? a paycheck that is wayyyyyy too small for the amount of responsibility they shoulder - that and the ill-conceived comments like yours about how stupid and incompetent they are.

The CIA is Secretive, has no accountability and the only time you hear about The Agency is when there is enough blowback to hit the press. I don’t like my money going to an organization that can do drug experiments on people without their knowledge, start wars, assassinate, murder, sell drugs, import drugs, and many other illegal activities with out my approval. If I did any of this for myself I would go to jail. So unless it is converted into a transparent agency I don’t like it. If it is in the US of As interest to knock someone off then do it straight out, like with a bomb that has an American flag and Made In USA on it dropped form a plane with an American flag on it that is Made In USA with a pilot that is Made In USA and a flag on his arm, get where I’m going with this? Then have a USA representative tell the world, “Yea, that was us”. No lies, no cover up. So if I am wrong about the CIA that is what happens when an agency is so secretive, just part of doing business that way.

You go on later to say "And here is the real conspiracy; No agency was made to pay a price. No bureaucrat was thrown in jail. No elected official was brought to trial." well, don't you know? people make mistakes? not every grain of salt will be counted, but at the end of the day, we all still have enough salt for our foods, and the world moves on. Who would you bring to trial might i ask? and who would you get to FAIRLY and JUSTLY preside over those proceedings? By your own assertions, the whole of the entire government (all three branches) are all incompetent and morons, full of corruption.

So when a drunk driver runs over someone you will just say “well, don't you know? people make mistakes?” Sounds good for the criminals. The key point “to FAIRLY and JUSTLY preside over those proceedings?” Can’t be done? Not the way things are now so you are right on that.

What I have to say about the whole mess is this... Yes, 9/11 was indeed a tragedy, it should have never happened no matter WHO was responsible, but lets stop dwelling on the past shall we and move on with our lives? Claiming that old bugaboo "911" is old and way overused by everyone to gain symnpathy, support, or recognition. Stop the harrassment of people at the airports already. how can you claim that you do this to protect the borders of our country from terrorist invasion when any terrorist with half a brain would just fly to mexico or canada and walk across or drive across the border that is left wide open and relatively unsecured. When you close off the borders, make it nearly impossible to cross into this country over land or sea, THEN worry about the small percentage of people entyering this country via air transport.

I agree with this last statement. The basic problem of over staying visas is bigger now than 9/10. You would think at least that could have gotten fixed.

One lesson from 9/11, you MUST stand up for yourself, if a stewardess is being murdered it is in your own self-interest to intervene. The “government” can’t be everywhere, even in the old Soviet Union. It is up to the individual to make the world a livable place no matter where one is.

Thank you for responding.

I seriously doubt that private pilots were flying over the pentagon... there are areas that are "restricted airspace" such as airports and such, and then there are areas that are "no fly zones". The pentagon is a no fly zone. anyone entering the restricted airspace surrounding this no fly zone would first get a warning via the radio, and if that failed, there WOULD be an air force jet there to escort them away. If they failed to follow either of these they WOULD be shot down (ex air force pilot here. The reason that these no fly zones are there are to prevent any type of aerial attack on key government buildings. These procedures have been around since before the cold war days. There are specific other procedures in effect in these no fly zones, one of them being the use of contracted top level security cleared pilots in the private sector with ex military experience using specially modified private sector type aircraft to fly into and around these no fly zones for the purpose of surveillance.

I stand by this one though I was being a bit sarcastic to say “everyday”. I do know that there were many pilots in the time running up to 9-11 that were in fact intercepted in small aircraft and made to land. One guy clamed to have had multiple problems such as radio and navigation as I recall and I do believe he was fined but didn’t loose his license. Another guy about the same time did lose his license. These seemed to me probes of some sort or maybe not but there was a spat of them for a time. What I am saying is that due to political correctness, worries of political fallout, unjust liabilities of “wrong decisions” from second guessing politicians, prosecutors and media types that have political reasons to persecute anyone when it comes to anyone at anytime in the USA defending themselves or the country that it is almost impossible for the military to do it’s job. This includes defending the Pentagon at that time, but this is just my misinformed observations and extrapolations. Examples of this are rife in the Iraq police action (can’t be called a war, isn’t declared and so cannot be “won”)

I will not even get into the few conspiracy theories that do make sense, such as the scientifically proven and re proven theory that the buildings were brought down by controlled demolition for one...

The building came down from the top to the bottom, controlled demolition is opposite. When the weight of one floor drops through another it pulls in the framework and thus implodes, as the weight increases and gravity accelerates you get what happened to the towers. This is just basic engineering and physics. The metal didn’t have to melt, just the floors needed to burn through to allow all the computes, desks, chairs, drywall, all the thousands of miles of Cat 5 and electrical cable on each floor fall through to overload the floors beneath and then it just snowballs from there. And so the only person that controlled demolition is proven to is someone that is not an engineer or knows how physics work.

you go on later to state how incompetent every level of the government is and instead of providing practical suggestions on how to remedy THAT problem you suggest :

"The only way to fix this situation is from the bottom up. Rid yourself of personal debt. Live below your means. Take care of the planet, it's the only one we've got. Stop consuming for consumptions sake and start investing in a high quality life with high quality US made products. Be respectable and people will respect you. Save 10% of all the money you make. Get rich quick is a policy of failure, slow and steady is sustainable."

this does nothing but make the people who are already suffering suffer more. it does NOTHING to attempt to fix the problem of the government. I do agree that it is a good idea NOT to overspend beyond your means, however - that falls into a different argument.. the only REAL solution is to hold every elected official to some form of accountability, in writing, no pleas.

How do you get that being debt free, having some money saved up, being respectable or the rest make anyone suffer more. Is instant gratification some sort of right? What ever happened to hard work, pride and self esteem? No-one can buy that, it comes from a job well done, doing something with your life, going somewhere in life, accomplishing things, you know, and living not vegetating in front of a TV or on the internet. YOU are a slave to the government and corporations (same thing?) if you are only working to pay off debt for stuff that has nothing to do with quality of life. When you’re on your death bed and you look back at your life are you going to be proud of the size of your TV? Or the 70 years you worked to pay the bills? If most people were debt free and had self-esteem then maybe the politician that is best for the long term would get elected instead of the one that promises the most welfare.

We all get the government we deserve.

I do have to contend a few things the posted said though...

"2. Do you really think the US military was prepared to shoot down any aircraft flying past the Pentagon? Almost everyday before 911 a private pilot would go into Pentagon airspace without getting shot down. "

I seriously doubt that private pilots were flying over the pentagon... there are areas that are "restricted airspace" such as airports and such, and then there are areas that are "no fly zones". The pentagon is a no fly zone. anyone entering the restricted airspace surrounding this no fly zone would first get a warning via the radio, and if that failed, there WOULD be an air force jet there to escort them away. If they failed to follow either of these they WOULD be shot down (ex air force pilot here. The reason that these no fly zones are there are to prevent any type of aerial attack on key government buildings. These procedures have been around since before the cold war days. There are specific other procedures in effect in these no fly zones, one of them being the use of contracted top level security cleared pilots in the private sector with ex military experience using specially modified private sector type aircraft to fly into and around these no fly zones for the purpose of surveillance.

"3. And so someone stupid enough to kill themselves and murder a bunch of innocent people is going to be smart enough to research all the comings and goings of the Pentagon? We're talking about droids not James Bond with a movie script. "

It has been proven that the "terrorists" the "officials" claim to have been on board those aircraft were nowhere near the attack sites and are still to this day, alive and well. For that matter, "the officials" claim that they base identification of the attackers on photo ID's recovered from the crash sites. These same crash sites that burned so intensely that the special "black boxes" designed to withstand crashes and extreme temperatures were not recovered and listed as officially "burned beyond recovery"

I will not even get into the few conspiracy theories that do make sense, such as the scientifically proven and re proven theory that the buildings were brought down by controlled demolition for one... you go on later to state how incompetent every level of the government is and instead of providing practical suggestions on how to remedy THAT problem you suggest :

"The only way to fix this situation is from the bottom up. Rid yourself of personal debt. Live below your means. Take care of the planet, it's the only one we've got. Stop consuming for consumptions sake and start investing in a high quality life with high quality US made products. Be respectable and people will respect you. Save 10% of all the money you make. Get rich quick is a policy of failure, slow and steady is sustainable."

this does nothing but make the people who are already suffering suffer more. it does NOTHING to attempt to fix the problem of the government. I do agree that it is a good idea NOT to overspend beyond your means, however - that falls into a different argument.. the only REAL solution is to hold every elected official to some form of accountability, in writing, no pleas. ]]> 2008-10-07T15:42:59-07:00 en-us Copyright © 2008 craigslist, inc. http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/870447531.html text 2008-10-07T15:42:59-07:00 http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/866947254.html
1. An aircraft is an illusion, it is made up of relatively thin sheet aluminum and a few braces that crumple and, didn't know this I'll bet, it does burn. Ever seen a motorcycle that has lit on fire? The Only substantial piece of hardened steel in a jet aircraft is the turbine shaft in the motors. How small can you compact a semi truck (it has a bigger chunk of steel in the motor and trans than an entire jet aircraft has total) going into a wall at 600 miles per hour?

2. Do you really think the US military was prepared to shoot down any aircraft flying past the Pentagon? Almost everyday before 911 a private pilot would go into Pentagon airspace without getting shot down.

3. And so someone stupid enough to kill themselves and murder a bunch of innocent people is going to be smart enough to research all the comings and goings of the Pentagon? We're talking about droids not James Bond with a movie script.

Now here is what really happened.

1. An incompetent president, Bill Clinton, put up barriers to impede the FBI and CIA from doing their jobs.

2. The CIA is itself a corrupt and incompetent agency designed to cause Big Trouble for all humans living on this planet.

3. The FBI is your typical lazy incompetent police agency that is actually a political tool of the sitting president that has no legal mandate or responsibility to protect anyone and in fact can not be held accountable for any actions or lack there of in any court or by any organization except the presidents office.

4. The Congress of the US is mostly populated by very high paid derelict morons and so only confusions and corruptions come out of Washington DC.

5. The sitting president at the time had no clue about (pick a subject).

And here is the real conspiracy; No agency was made to pay a price. No bureaucrat was thrown in jail. No elected official was brought to trial. The opportunity was taken to expand three poorly run organizations into one organization that is two times the size of the combined three previous organizations and is only half as competent with a budget that is unlimited. The opportunity was taken to pass yet more laws to give more power to the same exact people that failed to do the job for which they were expected to do. And We The People just sit at home and do nothing but bitch about how the bad the government sucks, watch TV, buy houses we can't afford, jack up the credit card balance, do brain numbing drugs, have irresponsible sex without consequence, do a crappy job at work, make Al Gore rich, act rude to our neighbors, hate our lives and everything else and hope for Obama to come in and help us run our personal lives.

Did you know Nixon was the first president to let the dollar float and Bush comes from the same crew as Nixon? Now that is a little coincidental.

The only way to fix this situation is from the bottom up. Rid yourself of personal debt. Live below your means. Take care of the planet, it's the only one we've got. Stop consuming for consumptions sake and start investing in a high quality life with high quality US made products. Be respectable and people will respect you. Save 10% of all the money you make. Get rich quick is a policy of failure, slow and steady is sustainable.

I haven't had this much fun in days!]]> 2008-10-04T22:12:16-07:00 en-us Copyright © 2008 craigslist, inc. http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/866947254.html text 2008-10-04T22:12:16-07:00 http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/860181524.html Don't know if I'm voting for Perez, but I'm sure not voting for Jeandryn.]]> 2008-09-29T15:23:18-07:00 en-us Copyright © 2008 craigslist, inc. http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/860181524.html text 2008-09-29T15:23:18-07:00 http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/854456434.html
HE WILL PROTECT AMERICA
HE WILL SUPPORT YOUR SCHOOLS
HE WILL BRING HOME OUR JOBS
HE WILL REPAIR OUR LEEVES
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Paul R. Singh 4 Assembly District 2
P.O. BOX 905
Gridley Ca. 95948
Phone 530-979-1455
Email: singh4assembly2@live.com
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Andrea Singh, Treasurer FPPC ID# 1304142
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Paul Singh Believes local enterprise insure future economic health.
AB 2168 is an investment in the community by letting farmers retail their produce locally. This keeps jobs at home. Outsourcing our agricultural product can endanger the safety of our people.
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Schools are an investment in our sons and daughters to learn the required skills needed in life.
Schools Are an investment to retrain or to update skills needed in the workplace.
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Flood Control is an investment to repair damaged and aged levees. Repair would mean no devastating floods.
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PAUL SINGH. Believes we need to protect programs that benefit our seniors, veterans and middle class.
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HEALTH CARE COVERAGE. Insures the health and well-being of our people young and old, rich and poor.
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VETERANS BENEFITS. Are promises that must be kept to the men and women who have served in Iraq and other wars.
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PAUL R. SINGH is a north stater who knows the area.
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Paul R. Singh attended Live Oak High School and Butte College. Singh's roots go deep into the North State Community.
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Paul R. Singh earned his Indentured Apprenticeship, License in Pest Control, Asbestos Contractor, and Insurance Agent/Broker.
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Paul R. Singh knows the value of education. He applies it his Farming Business.
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I WANT TO HELP "PAUL R. SINGH" for Assembly!!!!
Make Checks Payable too:
PAUL SINGH 4 ASSEMBLY DISTRICT 2.
Attn: Treasurer
P.O. BOX 905
Gridley California 95948.


]]> 2008-09-25T03:54:02-07:00 en-us Copyright © 2008 craigslist, inc. http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/854456434.html text 2008-09-25T03:54:02-07:00 http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/846263922.html 2008-09-18T16:34:31-07:00 en-us Copyright © 2008 craigslist, inc. http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/846263922.html text 2008-09-18T16:34:31-07:00 http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/846081846.html THE PENTAGON some facts and anomilies that imply 911 was an inside job

1. why would the terrorists who wanted to inflict maximum death and destruction aim for a part of a the Pentagon that had just been reinforced,was still under renovation so less people occupying it, when they could of hit the east wing where the secratary of defense and many high officers were housed?this was public knowledge.

2. if the goverment wanted to shut up conpiracy theories about a 757 never hitting the pentagon, why wont they release any of the 86 videos of the pentagon that would show a plane hitting it? what are they hiding?also these videos were confiscating from the pentagon, citgo station, and other nearby business immediatly by the FBI. The 911 commision also never sopeaned any of these videos, the one video of the attack on the pentagon is only a few frames and does not show a plane just an explosion, sounds fishy

3.Hani Hanjour the aledged pilot of flight 77 was reported to be a terrible pilot who couldnt not even fly a prop plane, was said by the commision to be chosen for this assignment cause he ws the best pilot of them all.he could barely fly but he made near impossible manuever hitting the pentagon bullseye.

4. the Pentagon is the most protected building in the world, it has surface to air missles protecting it, any plane with out a military trasponder that come snear it would be shot down.also by this time there was knowlede of the 2 attacks on WTC so the plane still hit the pentagon? and no one was evacuated or warned? andrews airforce base that was near the Pentagon could of scrambled fighter jets in time but it didnt. sounds fishy.

5. This 757 was supposed to of went all the way into the building made a 16 foot whole and many of the windows around this hole were not even broken. no recognizable debris from the plane was out side the pentagon. then we are told the plane liquified inside. LOL planes dont liquify from those temperatures do they?aluminum and titanium were liquified but the FBI still found body parts and were able to identify passengers by thier DNA!!!!

6. Barbara Olson called her husband Ted from flight 77 collect from a plane phone, then it was said a cell phone, but that plane did not have seat phones,and in the Missoui trial teh FBI stated that Barbara Olson never connected a call from flight 77. So the FBI contradicted the department of justice!!! Barbara's calls are the only ones that mentioned box cutters.
but now it never happened so her husband just made it up??

7. 67 passenger and 2 pilots one of them a buff chamopion boxer were held at bay by a few skinny short hijackers with some box cutters???

there are many more anomilies of teh pantagon please google them
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Under divine Providence, it has been allegiance to the Constitution that has preserved our liberties and protected our very way of life. Most of the problems, failings, and frustrations that plague our nation today are due to the propensity of our civil magistrates to ignore or blatantly abuse constitutional government. Accordingly, fidelity to the Constitution would likely repair most of the damage done by this neglect.

It is the responsibility of a free people to jealously guard the principles upon which their liberties are predicated. For citizens of these United States, the principles that duly protect our liberties are contained in the U.S. Constitution, Bill of Rights, and Declaration of Independence. Therefore, it is incumbent upon every American to studiously familiarize
himself with these documents.

Furthermore, it is the duty of every American to stubbornly hold their elected representative, at every level of government, accountable to his or her oath to the Constitution. The U.S. Constitution is the contract that every civil magistrate makes with "We the People." Failure of an elected representative to fulfill that oath to the Constitution should be met with swift and certain rejection by the people at the polls. Nothing else should matter. Republican or Democrat, man or woman, black or white, believer or unbeliever: it is the responsibility of every civil magistrate to submit to the restrictions and instructions of the Constitution.

Our Constitution (along with the Bill of Rights and Declaration of Independence) was formed, framed, and founded upon the eternal principles contained in Natural Law, which proceeds forth from man's Creator and Redeemer. No people in human history have ever been so blessed as the people of the United States to inherit such a legacy. Such a heritage serves only to heighten our own responsibility, as "unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required."

On this Constitution Day of 2008, may this generation of Americans live up to its responsibility to valiantly bequeath to our posterity the same legacy of freedom that was so bravely and miraculously bequeathed to us. For the sake of freedom, for the love of our children, and for the safety and security of our republic, may each of us determine for ourselves--and commit to Almighty God--to "preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States."]]> 2008-09-17T22:34:30-07:00 en-us Copyright © 2008 craigslist, inc. http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/845265508.html text 2008-09-17T22:34:30-07:00 http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/844914927.html
Once again the 'profits are private, loses belong to the taxpayers' approach to capitalism that the Neo-Con's call governance.

Keep in mind McCain wants four more years of the same.]]> 2008-09-17T16:26:01-07:00 en-us Copyright © 2008 craigslist, inc. http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/844914927.html text 2008-09-17T16:26:01-07:00 http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/842605603.html
Vote how you want people. If you feel that the continued running down of the country by the democrats and republicans is what you want, then vote for them, fine and more power to you. If, like me however, you are tired of getting crapped on by the same government (face it, whether democrat or republican, BOTH parties are responsible for the HUGE national debt, the failing economy, the selling off of American jobs to overseas labor farms, etc) then you are fed up with it and want someone in there is is not controlled by major party politics or special interest groups. I am voting for either Barr or baldwin, I have yet to decide which. I liked Ron Paul somewhat and baldwin seems to feel the same way on a lot of major issues as he did so that may sway me to vote baldwin.]]> 2008-09-16T01:51:55-07:00 en-us Copyright © 2008 craigslist, inc. http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/842605603.html text 2008-09-16T01:51:55-07:00 http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/842171132.html 911 truth movement our everywhere republicans liberal christaians atheists all supporting a new investigation into 911.911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!!!
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face it people, NO vote is a wasted vote except for the one not cast. Vote for the candidate who's message agrees the most with what you want to see. Disregard political parties and vote for the candidate.]]> 2008-09-12T16:31:20-07:00 en-us Copyright © 2008 craigslist, inc. http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/838253984.html text 2008-09-12T16:31:20-07:00 http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/838481820.html everyone else check out loosechange final cut on youtube or speeches by david ray griffin]]> 2008-09-12T16:00:44-07:00 en-us Copyright © 2008 craigslist, inc. http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/838481820.html text 2008-09-12T16:00:44-07:00 http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/838109213.html He is also a very gifted speaker. Fox News charterized him as a "great speaker." But, listen to him talk; it is hard to tell what he really believes for all of the rhetoric. For example, he stated he believed in community service and service to the military. It had to be clarified that he wasn't talking about the draft. His statement appears to make him pro military, he is not! His speeches are often ambiguous, left to be interpreted by the listener. For example, his lipstick remark was understood by the crowd he was speaking to, he smiled, they laughed. But, later he disavowaled what he had said.

He is a socialist, and I find that unsettling.

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Karl Marx posited that socialism would be achieved via class struggle and a proletarian revolution, it being the transitional stage between capitalism and communism.[2][3]

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I hear the term "values" going around quite a bit. I am not a religious fanatic by all means but I do agree that if we all simply abide by the Ten Commandments we will all be happy. Who cares if same sex couples want to get married? I do not truly believe that this would have any impact on straight marriages nor would it affect the children growing up in today's society. If you think so, I would love to debate anyone on the issue. The only argument against it is the BIBLE. Well, that is a document that can be/is perceived many different ways so it is erroneous.
Anytime there is discrimination based upon one's gender, disability, race, sexual orientation or any other basis, it is absolutely wrong. We all need to stop being afraid of what is different and let people be who they are as long as they are not physically harming any living thing. If it is emotional feeling, tough-- get over it!

So here is my view on each candidate:

1) McCain- he is an old school, war monger with a bitter taste in his mouth because of his time as a POW in Vietnam and his brain washing he has received in Washington. He is fed by the corporate pig and will bring no more change to this nation than a furry rabbit in a hat. The majority of the world does not like him neither do the majority of Americans. He is not "founding fathers" material but more of "what America has become" material. No change will come from his tenure in office. He is running part of his campaign on his Christian values and that, in my opinion, is a recipe for disaster. How can you believe in Freedom of Religion when you are an avid supporter of only one and you want to run your country on its' principles? Oh yea, he picks a female vice (Palin), simply to woo the women voters who were upset when Obama did not pick Hillary. I have researched her myself and I feel I am more vetted than she is. Sad.

2) Baldwin, Nader and such- well the truth of the matter is this, it is not happening! It is a wasted vote. They all have agreed to a pact to do what the majority of us want to see done in the first place. However, not a single one has all the most important issues addressed in a realistic sense. We cannot have a president who wants to change America immediately. It took us several years to get into this mess and it will take several to get out. It is similar to you not paying attention while you are driving and you veer into the shoulder of the road. Most of us tend to freak out and steer hard to get back in line and that is a recipe for disaster. We need to address the issues slowly and methodically and not over-react. Slowly steer ourselves into the right direction.

3) Obama- well here is a guy who comes out of nowhere and has made a big impact on the campaign trail. He has no experience worth mentioning (that is why you haven't heard of any). He speaks the same political mumbo-jumbo I have talked about in McCain's criticism and I highly doubt he will change anything either. However, there is one thing that I do like about him- we, as Americans have a good knack for bitching and he has always listened. The change will not be made by him but through him. This is who we need in office. Not because he is good but because he is impressionable. Plus, recent polls show him as the favorite pick by foreign people. He would boost our national image and the will go a long way into getting our economy back on track and cleaning up the frayed relations left by the Bush Administration.

Folks, we need to get rid of our idea of picking a president because of what he believes in or based upon experience. We have done that for the past 5-6 presidents (depending on how you look at it) and it has failed us, BIG TIME. What drives our "wrong" voting style is the media. We have become so lost in the differing opinions we forgot to look at what really matters. The best president is one who listens to the majority and sets his values and beliefs aside.

He/She should be neutral ground and have not one single idea of what policies or bills to put in place. I cannot remember when I started a job with changes I wanted to make way before I ever actually sat my ass behind the desk. You have to look at what the mentality is and what you are truly working with. You have to feel and learn your boundaries and be open to suggestion from people you do not know. I, by all means, do not agree with what any candidate has to say (even Obama) but I do think that Obama is the most logical and soft-headed. He will do what Americans want. So, Obama sir-- you have my vote!



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Chuck Baldwin of Constitution Party to be Joined by Border Agent’s Wife

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Constitution Party presidential candidate Chuck Baldwin (www.Baldwin08.com) will join former GOP presidential candidate Rep Ron Paul (R-Tex.) at a News Conference at 10:30 a.m. on Wednesday, September 10, 2008, at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C.

Baldwin, who joined other constitutionalists at Ron Paul’s “Shadow Convention” on September 2 in Minneapolis, will be joined by Monica Ramos, wife of imprisoned Border Patrol agent Ignacio Ramos. Baldwin has called for the immediate pardon and release of Ramos and Jose Compean, who are serving 11 and 12 year sentences for attempting to uphold immigration law.

Congressman Paul, who is expected to present non-negotiable points voters must demand from a presidential candidate, invited Chuck Baldwin, the only anti-illegal immigrant amnesty presidential candidate, to the September 10 News Conference. Baldwin, a long-time critic of the open-borders policy,will join concerned Americans attending the annual Hold Their Feet To The Fire Radio Row protest and Lobby Days sponsored by the Federation for American Immigration Reform(FAIR) Congressional Task Force.(http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=feettothefire08)

Baldwin, a popular political commentator on national TV shows, is a radio talk show host, author of two books, and pastor of the Crossroads Baptist Church in Pensacola. Florida. He is the only candidate who received an “EXCELLENT” rating by pro-secure borders group Numbers USA .

The group rated Obama and McCain “abysmal” and rated Libertarian Party candidate Bob Barr “bad” on the immigration issue. (http://www.baldwin08.com/files/ImmigrationIssues.pdf)

“The United States government aids and abets illegal criminals, and jails its own law enforcement agents for doing their job. Despite these injustices, both parties controlling our government offer us more of the same with identical pro-amnesty presidential candidates,” Baldwin said.

“Neither Obama nor McCain will end the invasion from the south, nor have they called for the release of our brave border agents. I am the only candidate representing the 75% of Americans who want illegal immigration and amnesty to end.”

In April 2008, Chuck Baldwin was elected by delegates of the nationwide Constitution Party to be their presidential candidate. The CP, founded in 1992, was initially called the U.S. Taxpayers Party. It is the fifth political party to be recognized by the Federal Election Commission. It s expected to be on the ballot in almost every state.]]> 2008-09-08T20:56:47-07:00 en-us Copyright © 2008 craigslist, inc. http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/833421654.html text 2008-09-08T20:56:47-07:00 http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/833401952.html tr.v. ob·fus·cat·ed, ob·fus·cat·ing, ob·fus·cates
1. To make so confused or opaque as to be difficult to perceive or understand: "A great effort was made . . . to obscure or obfuscate the truth" Robert Conquest.
2. To render indistinct or dim; darken: The fog obfuscated the shore.

Is this what you are trying to do?]]> 2008-09-08T20:34:19-07:00 en-us Copyright © 2008 craigslist, inc. http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/833401952.html text 2008-09-08T20:34:19-07:00 http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/833395183.html
to strike or slap with the flat of the hand, especially on the buttocks, usually as a punishment.

Reading this dribble is a punishment.
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The president has a limited use of executive powers, he/she can overridden. Baldwin will only change the sheets.
Obama's claim to fame is Harvard.
Vote for McCain and Palin!]]> 2008-09-06T09:58:35-07:00 en-us Copyright © 2008 craigslist, inc. http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/830065233.html text 2008-09-06T09:58:35-07:00 http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/829484451.html 2008-09-05T20:30:09-07:00 en-us Copyright © 2008 craigslist, inc. http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/829484451.html text 2008-09-05T20:30:09-07:00 http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/829469239.html 2008-09-05T20:13:30-07:00 en-us Copyright © 2008 craigslist, inc. http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/829469239.html text 2008-09-05T20:13:30-07:00 http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/829455711.html Well, I for one am not in favor of abolishing the constitution. And if someone tries, I do believe the majority of people in the US would not be in favor of it. "

I have news for you... The patriot acts 1 and 2 did just that. GW abolished the constitution, and chuck baldwin wants to see it returned]]> 2008-09-05T19:57:35-07:00 en-us Copyright © 2008 craigslist, inc. http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/829455711.html text 2008-09-05T19:57:35-07:00 http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/829287075.html
And I do not believe Executive Orders would suffice in accomplishing the things Chuck Baldwin advocates, and I am concerned if there is any large group supporting him in his quest.

I believe the Obama-Biden ticket is our best hope for a great America at this time.]]> 2008-09-05T17:25:42-07:00 en-us Copyright © 2008 craigslist, inc. http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/829287075.html text 2008-09-05T17:25:42-07:00 http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/828096766.html "Unfortunately Chuck Baldwin must not have read the constitution. The President does not have the power to make the changes he is speaking about. He will need the majority of the Congress and the Senate to make those changes. And frankly, I sincerely doubt a third party candidate will get much support from the US Senate or the US Congress made up of Republicans and Democrats and one or two independents."

Actually, yes, he can. The Declaration of Independence clearly states, "That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

Sio... according to the declaration of independence, the present government can be completely abolished and a new (constitutional) government can be put in its place (So way out there in left field, the president can abolish those things that are "destructive" to constitutional government without approval of congress OR the senate. hell... it doesn't even have to be the president... WE THE PEOPLE can according to the declaration of independence...)

Practically speaking (back to reality if you will); The president can issue a series of "Executive Orders" (orders that are to be taken as LAW, without the input of congress or the senate) that could do every single one of the things Chuck Baldwin has proposed in his speeches.]]> 2008-09-05T00:09:24-07:00 en-us Copyright © 2008 craigslist, inc. http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/828096766.html text 2008-09-05T00:09:24-07:00 http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/828035058.html
No third party candidate can be effective without control of the US Congress and the US Senate. And McCain and Palin will mean four more years of the mess we have had for the last 8 years.]]> 2008-09-04T22:23:36-07:00 en-us Copyright © 2008 craigslist, inc. http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/828035058.html text 2008-09-04T22:23:36-07:00 http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/828031236.html 2008-09-04T22:18:13-07:00 en-us Copyright © 2008 craigslist, inc. http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/828031236.html text 2008-09-04T22:18:13-07:00 http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/827478768.html And what about the impeachment and murder charges i heard about against Bush Cheney and the upper echelon? Is this just bs or is there any truth to it?]]> 2008-09-04T14:32:45-07:00 en-us Copyright © 2008 craigslist, inc. http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/827478768.html text 2008-09-04T14:32:45-07:00 http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/823216179.html [1] - Do i totally agree with the candidate's position on immigration?
[2] - Do i want change, real change?
[3] - Do I want the tax code to be more complex?
[4] - Do I want our troops back from Iraq in 15 years?
[5] - Do I want to continue to spend over $4 a gallon for fuel?

curiously both the republican and democratic candidate say almost the same thing on these positions... they both are against tightening border security, they both are for changing taxes, adding more new taxes, they both say they want to bring the troops home but neither say when, and they both support continued dependence on foreign oil. so neither are for change... neither have your best interests in mind..

if you want a candidate that will secure our borders, so that no terrorists can sneak into our country;
if you want a candidate that wants to institute sweeping changes that would drastically reduce governmental interference in your lives;
if you want a president who wants to simplify taxes and make your dollar worth more;
if you want a president who wants to immediately return our troops back home from Iraq and isn't afraid to say it;
if you want a president who not only has a workable plan to cut the cost of fuel in half, but also to free us from foreign oil dependence;

then you can only vote for ONE candidate, his name is Chuck Baldwin, the Constitution party candidate for president.

You can continue to support the "same old same old, you can continue to vote for who you think is the lesser of two evils, or - you can make your vote count for something and with VERY little effort, start this country back on the road to the greatness she once held.

Learn more at http://www.baldin08.com]]> 2008-09-01T23:25:33-07:00 en-us Copyright © 2008 craigslist, inc. http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/823216179.html text 2008-09-01T23:25:33-07:00 http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/822783543.html NumbersUSA's Roy Beck Assesses Presidential Candidates On Immigration Issues

Roy Beck, Founder & CEO, NumbersUSA

As of Sunday, July 13, 2008 2:45:20 AM

Assessing Overall Candidate Promises (See criteria below)

Issue	DEMOCRATS Barack Obama	REPUBLICANS John McCain	INDEPENDENT Ralph Nader	CONSTITUTION Chuck Baldwin	LIBERTARIAN Bob Darr
No amnesty — Attrition through enforcement pushes illegal aliens back home	abysmal	abysmal	fair	EXCELLENT	bad
Stop future illegal immigration	poor	bad	poor	EXCELLENT	bad
Reduce legal immigration — Protect Americans from mass foreign worker competitions, congestion & sprawl	abysmal	abysmal	poor	EXCELLENT	fair
End chain migration	abysmal	abysmal	poor	EXCELLENT	good
End visa Lottery	poor	bad	poor	EXCELLENT	good
Control foreign worker numbers / protect U.S. workers	abysmal	abysmal	good	EXCELLENT	good
No citizenship for births to illegal aliens	poor	poor	poor	EXCELLENT	good
Mandatory workplace verification	bad	good	poor	EXCELLENT	fair
Punish employerswho hire illegal aliens	good	fair	good	EXCELLENT	poor
Local enforcement of federal immigration laws	bad	good	poor	EXCELLENT	poor
Implement entryexit system	poor	fair	poor	EXCELLENT	good
More security at borders	fair	good	poor	EXCELLENT	EXCELLENT
End sanctuary cities	bad	fair	poor	EXCELLENT	good
Prohibit states from issuing driver's licenses to illegal aliens	abysmal	poor	bad	EXCELLENT	fair
Prohibit in-state tuition to illegal aliens	abysmal	abysmal	poor	EXCELLENT	EXCELLENT

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If i were president, I would immediately institute a FLAT tax of 24% across the board, no exceptions, no loopholes.

If i were president, I would immediately abolish the federal reserve, reclaim the US monetary dollar and imprison everyone associated with the federal reserve for defrauding the American citizen

If i were president, I would immediately order a closing of all our borders for 1 full year, noone in or out

If i were president, I would abolish the electoral college

If i were president, I would immediately call for a war crimes trial for every member of the current administration and their cabinet, to be held in Iran and presided over by the Libyans

If i were president, I would immediately withdraw from Nato, the UN and any and all "free trade" agreements made with foreign countries

If i were president, I would immediately legalize pot and prostitution, available in both cases with US governmental regulation. Pot would be screened and sold at what street value was 20 years ago and all prostitutes would be required to obtain a weekly permit from the government after having weekly free screens for STDs.

If i were president, I would immediately remove from this country any illegal alien (including "anchor babies". If you were born in this country from illegal immigrants, that makes you illegal as well)

If i were president, I would immediately dismiss every member of the senate and congress, and in most cass have them held for trial for treason. New elections would be held to bring in new senators and congressmen

If i were president, I would immediately dissolve and make illegal, any and all political parties. Let the candidates run on their own merit, not on what some party pays them to run under.

If i were president, I would immediately make any "campaign contributions" from ANY source a federal offense, subject to life in prison. The government will award each candidate an equal amount of moneys on which to run their campaign. Strict record keeping will be required and any deviation over the allocated amount would immediately disqualify that candidate and have them arrested for fraud.

If i were president, I would require that every US citizen be trained and armed. guns are a GREAT deterrent to crime.

If i were president, I would immediately revoke any and all secret service protection and retirement (and any other benefits) from any ex-president or other elected official. When they are in office they are given those protections, once they leave office they are just another private citizen and must work for their retirement.

so.. do I have your vote?]]> 2008-08-31T23:47:04-07:00 en-us Copyright © 2008 craigslist, inc. http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/821791395.html text 2008-08-31T23:47:04-07:00 http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/820002384.html
Chuck Baldwin was born in La Porte, Indiana on May 3, 1952. He is married to the former Miss Connie Kay Cole. Chuck and Connie were married on June 2, 1973 after meeting in college. They have three cherished and wonderful children and all three are married with families of their own.

Chuck graduated from La Porte High School in 1971 and attended Midwestern Baptist College in Pontiac, Michigan for two years. After he and Connie married and upon graduation they moved to Lynchburg, Virginia where he enrolled in Liberty Bible Institute at Liberty University. Since he earned his Bachelor and Master Degrees in Theology, Chuck has received two honorary Doctorate Degrees.

Chuck is a founder and minister at the Crossroad Baptist Church in Pensacola, FL. Under his leadership the Church was recognized by President Ronald Reagan. Many conservative political and values leaders have spoken in his church including Patrick J. Buchannan, Pueblo Intelligence Officer Lt. Commander Steve Harris, Congressman Joe Scarborough and Ambassador Alan Keys to name just a few.

Chuck Baldwin is also a radio talk show host and an accomplished author. He moderates a daily, a one hour long call-in show where he addresses current event topics from a conservative point of view. The program is considered to be the most influential voice in the Florida Panhandle for conservative principles. Thousands of citizens are informed and rally to a call to action on issues that are so important to our nation’s future.

Chuck is also a newspaper and internet columnist whose articles and political commentaries are carried by a host of internet sites, newspapers, and news magazines.

He has had the honor of meeting with former Presidents Ronald Reagan and George Bush, Sr. and Governors Bob Martinez, Fob James, Jr. and Jeb Bush. He has also been officially recognized by the Escambia County Florida Sheriff’s Department as an Honorary Deputy Sheriff. He received the “National Medal of Patriotism” award from the American Police Hall of Fame and is a volunteer chaplain at the State Prison in Century, Florida.
"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." -- John Quincy Adams ]]> 2008-08-30T13:13:16-07:00 en-us Copyright © 2008 craigslist, inc. http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/820002384.html text 2008-08-30T13:13:16-07:00 http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/pol/819212633.html
Now before you go and say if you dont vote for dem or rep then you are wasting your vote... let me remind you of another president who we ALL know of, Abraham Lincoln... he ran under the republican party, at that time, a small fringe 3rd party...

Good thing those people wasted their vote... who knows which of the major party candidates of that time would have won and the outcome of that...

Say no to Barak Obama
Say no to John McCain
Say yes to Chuck Baldwin and a return to the laws that once made this country great.



If I Were President
by Chuck Baldwin
May 2, 2008



Due to my frequent criticisms of President George W. Bush, I am often asked what I would do if I were President of these United States. This column will serve as an attempt to answer that question.

If I were President, I would begin the process of safely extracting our troops from Iraq. In the first place, our troops are no longer fighting a war, they are an occupation force, which occupies a sovereign country. And this is being done without a Declaration of War. The Iraqi people resent our occupation as much as we would resent another nation stronger than ours invading and occupying America. If such a thing happened to our beloved country, I'm sure many of us would also become "insurgents."

In the second place, the invasion and occupation of Iraq was absolutely unnecessary. Instead of sacrificing more than 4,000 American lives and the lives of tens of thousands of Iraqi citizens (not to mention some 2-3 trillion dollars), President Bush should have supported Ron Paul's bill, H.R. 3076, the September 11 Marque and Reprisal Act of 2001. This is the constitutional way to deal with rogue terrorist organizations. This is the way President Thomas Jefferson responded to the Barbary pirates.

According to Congressman Paul, "A letter of marque and reprisal is a constitutional tool specifically designed to give the President the authority to respond with appropriate force to those non-state actors who wage aggression against the United States while limiting his authority to only those responsible for the atrocities of that day. Such a limited authorization is consistent with the doctrine of just war and the practical aim of keeping Americans safe while minimizing the costs in blood and treasure of waging such an operation."

Had President Bush responded in this manner, tens of thousands of lives would have been saved, trillions of dollars would not have needed to be spent, Osama bin Laden and most of his fellow terrorists would likely be dead, and we would not be bogged down in a nightmarish military quagmire in Iraq. And, if I were President, this is exactly how I would handle terrorist organizations such as al Qaeda.

Furthermore, it is absolutely ludicrous to say we are fighting a war on terror half way around the world when we refuse to secure our borders and ports. If I were President, I would immediately seal our borders. I would also see to it that employers in America who knowingly hire illegal aliens are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. In plain language: any employer who consciously hires illegal aliens would go to jail. They would not pass Go; they would not collect $200; they would go straight to jail.

By sealing the borders and by cutting off the money supply to illegal aliens, the problem of illegal immigration would dry up. As it is, we have no idea how many potential terrorists--not to mention violent gang members such as MS-13--have snuck (and are sneaking) through our borders.

And speaking of illegal immigration, as President, I would enforce our visa rules. This means anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. law is immediately deported. There would be no "path to citizenship" given to any illegal alien. That means no amnesty. Not in any shape, manner, or form. I would not allow tax dollars to be used to pay for illegal aliens' education, social services, or medical care. As President, I would end birthright citizenship for illegal aliens. There would be no "anchor babies" during my administration.

If I were President, I would use the bully pulpit of the White House to encourage Congress to pass Congressman Ron Paul's Sanctity of Life Act. In short, this bill would do two things: First, it would declare that unborn babies are persons under the law. Second, under the authority of Article. III. Section. 2. of the U.S. Constitution, it would remove abortion from the jurisdiction of the Court. In essence, this bill would immediately overturn Roe v. Wade and end legalized abortion.

Republicans tout themselves as being "pro-life." Yet, the GOP controlled both houses of Congress and the White House for six years and did absolutely nothing to overturn Roe or end abortion-on-demand. Under my administration, we could end legal abortion in a matter of days, not decades. And if Congress refused to pass Dr. Paul's bill, I would use the constitutional power of the Presidency to deny funds to protect abortion clinics. Either way, legalized abortion ends when I take office.

On the subject of foreign policy, as President, I would end foreign aid. I would also end the current infatuation with nation-building, empire-building, and interventionism. America is not the world's policeman. Neither are our military personnel the personal militia of the United Nations.

Remember that President Bush told the U.N. in 2003 that the reason we invaded Iraq was for the purpose of securing the "peace and credibility of the United Nations." (I lie not; that is what he said.) President Bush also placed the U.S. back under UNESCO in spite of the fact that President Reagan had heroically taken the U.S. out from under that sinister organization.

I am sure that readers recall that the U.N. Charter was authored by a Soviet communist agent (Alger Hiss) and that the U.S. has been fighting wars for the U.N. ever since the organization was created back in 1945.

Speaking of the United Nations, as President, I would withhold funds from the support of the United Nations. In other words, I would get the U.S. out of the U.N. Beyond that, when I move into the White House, the U.N.'s rent is up! They move out of New York City post haste.

By the same token, there is absolutely no reason for us to be in NATO. We should not be antagonizing Russia by attempting to expand NATO. There is no reason why Russia could not become a friend and ally of the United States. Free and fair trade with Russia and a noninterventionist foreign policy in Europe would do much to endear American interests to Russia. To insist on expanding and empowering NATO only serves to further alienate Russia and drive her to make alliances with Communist China.

Speaking of China, it is time that we recognize the very serious threat that China poses to the peace and security of the United States. Our trade practices serve only to allow corporate America to continue to invest in what will surely become an albatross around the neck of our well-being. We must discontinue the practice of allowing China to export its cheap products to the U.S. with no protection for America's jobs and manufacturing, not to mention the lack of protection for our safety. This must stop, and it will stop when I become President. "Free trade" will no longer mean a free ride for Red China.

Furthermore, as President, I would take the preservation of our nation's sovereignty and independence extremely seriously. This means that the burgeoning North American Union is dead on arrival the day I am sworn in as President. Gone, too, is the NAFTA superhighway. And for that matter, I would lead the United States out of NAFTA and CAFTA altogether. And any prospect for the FTAA would be dead as well.

As President, I would be the best friend that gun owners (and lawful gun dealers), homeschoolers, and veterans ever had in the White House. These are three of the most persecuted, harassed, or overlooked groups of people in the country. But not if I were President.

There is no reason why our veterans should wait for weeks and months to receive the medical care they need. It is disgraceful that we would ask our brave men and women of the U.S. armed forces to fight our country's battles and then leave them to pretty much fend for themselves when it comes to receiving adequate health care. I would make taking care of our veterans an extremely high priority, if I were President.

If I were President, I would also do everything in my power to locate and retrieve any and all MIAs. I personally believe that there are hundreds of our servicemen who are yet being held against their will in various parts of the world. I would make finding them and bringing them home of utmost priority, if I were President.

On the home front, if I were President, I would end corporate welfare. I would also work to disband the Department of Energy (along with the Department of Education and many other federal departments). There is absolutely no reason for us to be dependent upon OPEC. There is enough gas and oil under the soil of Alaska (not to mention the Dakotas and the Gulf of Mexico) to meet the energy needs of the United States for the next 150-200 years. There is also no reason that gas should cost more than $1.50 a gallon (which is about what it was before Bush became President).

We must begin drilling for the domestic oil that we know exists; we must build more refineries and nuclear power plants. There is no reason why the United States cannot be mostly energy independent. It is time we started putting the people and interests of the United States ahead of the CEOs and interests of international corporations.

Lastly, if I were President, I would work feverishly to overturn the Sixteenth Amendment, which would repeal the Income Tax. And, no, I would not promote a national sales tax. That would be disastrous! Can you imagine what a 30% sales tax would do to the cost of EVERYTHING? Plus, give politicians a national sales tax to increase and just imagine what kind of percent that would grow into!

I would also work to repeal the "death tax," inheritance taxes, and property taxes. The American people are already paying somewhere between 30% and 40% of their income to Uncle Sam. It must stop. We are bankrupting our country with this incessant and burdensome tax system. In addition, I would work to expunge the Federal Reserve and to restore the American economy to sound money.

Now, I hear people say, That's easy for you to say; you are not a candidate for President. Ah, but now I am.

Last week, in its national nominating convention in Kansas City, Missouri, the Constitution Party nominated me as its 2008 Presidential candidate. Party delegates nominated me over Ambassador Alan Keyes by a margin of 74% to 24%. Therefore, I am now a candidate for President of these United States.

See the CP website at http://www.constitutionparty.com

My Vice Presidential running mate is Darrell Castle, an attorney and Vietnam War Marine Corps veteran from Memphis, Tennessee.

Our web site is not online yet, but will be soon. We will be able to receive credit card donations when the web page is uploaded. The address of my campaign web site is: http://www.baldwin2008.com

In the meantime, if anyone wants to support our campaign, checks may be written to:

Baldwin 2008
P.O. Box 131
Palmyra, New Jersey 08065
I believe it is only fair, as I continue to write these columns, that one understands the full disclosure of my candidacy.

As readers know, I enthusiastically supported Ron Paul during the Republican Primary season. I plan to continue to trumpet his call for limited government, non-interventionism abroad, constitutional government, and freedom into the general election as a Third Party candidate.

I do not expect the national media to pay us much heed; they seldom do. I do not expect to receive large donations from corporate America. I do expect criticism and ridicule. That is nothing new. However, I also anticipate tens of thousands of freedom-loving people from all religious persuasions and walks of life to rally to our cause. Why? Because thousands of principled people will not be bullied into voting for the "evil of two lessers" being shoved down our throats by the two major parties. Because this campaign is not about Chuck Baldwin. It is not about a political party. It is about freedom. It is about constitutional government. It is about restoring America to the founding principles bequeathed to us by our Founding Fathers. If you believe in those principles, join us!

In the meantime, these columns will continue to serve as a voice for America's founding principles, as they have for the past eight-plus years. In addition, unlike the candidates from the two major parties, the taxpayers are not underwriting my campaign, and I will continue my day job. (Imagine that: a Presidential candidate who actually works for a living!) And all of this is just in time for my 56th birthday, which is tomorrow, May 3.

There you have it: this is what I would do if I were President of these wonderful United States of America.


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